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featuring Tierra del Sol Studios and artist Jackie Marsh.
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Thanks.
I'll have the great honor of introducing
our special presenter guest today, Jackie Marsh.
Jackie has worked as a studio assistant
at the progressive art studios of Tierra Del Sol since 2009.
Marsh produces whimsical depictions
of animals and flowers, and painting, drawing and ceramics.
In both her two and three dimensional work,
just remark making is combined with a vibrant and loosely
applied color palette to define her delightfully exuberant
style.
In addition to being a studio artist,
Marsh also teaches art classes at Upland Art Studios,
The Joscelyn Senior Center and other venues.
Her work has been exhibited at such venues
as the Chan Gallery, Pomona College, Claremont.
California Baptist University, Riverside California.
Claremont Graduate University, Claremont California.
And [INAUDIBLE] Gallery, Palos Verdes, California.
When she's not developing her art career,
you can find Marsh at work providing compassionate care
to the animals of local animal shelters.
So please join me in welcoming Jackie Marsh, and Tierra Del
Sol today.
Thank you.
So I think I'll jump in and start the introductions
of the team from Tierra.
You've heard about Jackie, she'll
introduce herself in a moment.
My name is Rebecca Hamm, and I'm the director
of Arts for Tierra Del Sol.
I've worked with Tierra for 31 years,
and I've had the great pleasure of having so many artists
connected with us and develop our inclusive studio program.
And then also worked through the wonderful gallery, Tierra Del
Sol gallery that you're going to hear a lot about a little
later in the presentation.
So I am in the visual screen, I'm a white woman with bangs,
and long hair.
And I'm in a room with white walls and a curtain behind me.
And my pronouncer, she and her.
And I'm handing it over now to Lauren Romero.
Hello, everyone.
My name is Lauren Romero.
I am the program director for Upland Art Studios I've worked
with Tierra for 14 years.
My pronouns are she and her.
I am sitting at my desk with my kitchen behind me.
I have thick framed glasses, and my hair is tied back in a bun.
My name is Paige Wery, I am the gallery director and curator
for the Tierra del Sol gallery.
I am a white woman with long shaggy brown hair,
and I am wearing reading glasses.
Hi, I'm Pete.
I'm the gallery manager here at Tierra del Sol gallery.
I'm a Latino man with short dark brown hair,
and happy to be here.
My name is Laura Wilde.
My personal pronouns are she and her.
I have blond hair, it's in a ponytail, and blue eyes.
And I've been with Tierra for about four years.
I teach painting and ceramics.
My name is Jackie Marsh.
My pronouns are she.
I have brown hair with blonde highlight's.
I have blue eyes, I am wearing a turquoise sweatshirt.
I am an artist with Tierra del Sol,
I've been with them about 12 years.
That's wonderful.
Well we're going to kind of zip through our presentation.
Again, I just want to welcome everybody.
I wanted to start by letting everyone
know that we are here for the Tierra del Sol Foundation.
And what you're seeing here is a picture from our website.
This represents the Tierra del Sol foundation
that's been in place for actually 50 years.
This is our 50th anniversary.
Ah!
There we go.
And we've had the opportunity to work with hundreds of artists,
as well as all kinds of people who are on their career paths.
Our organization started by a small handful
of families who were very dissatisfied with what
was out there for their sons and daughters.
So they created their own opportunities
and it became Tierra.
So the studio program really began in earnest in 1989,
when we opened the first street gallery in Claremont.
And then in 2018, we moved the entire operations over
to Upland.
And now we're at the Upland Art Studios, which
is a few miles from Chaffey.
At the same time our Sunland campus
was developing the arts program and we
have Sunland Studio Arts there.
And in 2019 we started the Tierra del Sol gallery,
it was launched with Paige Wery as director,
and you're going to hear a lot more about that
in a few minutes.
So that's a picture of our gallery,
beautiful door on the right, and a shot from one
of the shows with Jonathan Jackson posing.
So back to our Tierra programs.
We literally have three areas that we
support people to pursue their career goals,
because they might not otherwise have all these opportunities.
So just like anyone who is in pursuit
of what is my life going to be, what is my dream job?
We have a program called Workforce Development that
allows people to explore and find what opportunities
are out there.
And then we support them with the skill building
for their chosen goals.
We also have College to Career, where we're helping people
on that education path, if they have that to get them
to their final dream job.
And then, of course, careers in the arts and that's
what we're focusing on today, helping folks
with all the steps needed to get to a professional career
in whatever aspect of arts makes the most sense for them.
In the arts programs we have all kinds
of things we're inventing all the time.
And just like what you all have seen
happen in our lives this year, we've gone remote,
we've developed innovative services
to get the arts out and about, not just in one location
because we can't go to those locations
very readily right now.
And we're continuing this inventive process that
has been there for 50 years.
We've always invented ways to make arts happen.
But the way that happens is we work
with artists who show us the path,
so Victor Fries in the middle loves to draw portraiture,
and now he does a small business where he can actually
invite people to come and get their portraits drawn
et cetera, like that.
This is a peek into the studios.
We have two inclusive studios and the term inclusive
at this point we're thinking that this
is a way of saying that we have opportunities for everyone,
there's no limitations if you're willing to come and explore
your arts.
So with these two studios one in Upline and one in Sunland,
we've had hundreds of artists come through.
And my experience has been--
literally 31 years ago, I was invited
to come in as a guest artist and work with some of the artists,
there were only eight artists at that time.
And we explored some ideas for creative expression,
and I was able to stay on as an art mentor an art instructor.
And then we had a gallery develop,
so I helped direct the gallery years ago.
And then it grew, and grew, and I became
a director of the program.
And now I direct both programs studios as director of Arts.
But the idea of where we have built our programs
has been very much the same from the beginning.
It's always been about artists and art,
and if we get guests artists in, we do exploratory projects.
We have a beautiful gallery to market and sell the work
and to show the world how fabulous the artists are.
And how invention and new creative opportunities
happen for everybody all the time.
So keeping up with all the artists
is what our job is, it's a lot of energetic action
to keep up with everybody's creative expression.
These are some images to show that we have artists
who are working in ceramics we have a lovely artist who also
has developed our weaving program from scratch.
We also have artists who get together and go to shows
as well as exhibit everywhere.
And on the left, you'll see one of our artists
who loves to draw, and has been compiling small books.
We also do poetry, we've had music performance.
The gamut of personal self-expression
is what we offer opportunities for.
So I'm going to quickly go over just the three
areas for our artists.
And first of all, we have artists
who pursue their professional goals
as exhibiting artists by making work
and creating their portfolios.
Shows that artists educators is also part of our program.
You see pictures of Jackie here, she on the left
is teaching a ceramics class at the local senior center,
and on the right she's part of the Zine workshops
that she's done many of.
The third area that we help artists pursue
is, the idea of what can happen as a self-employed artists?
Can they become a curator, can they go into arts management,
can they think more about making money off of commissions
or small businesses?
And so you see here artist Joe Zaldivar on the left,
delivering a commission piece he created for a small business
in our community.
And on the right again, you see Victor sitting there
with his kiosk for self portrait drawing.
I put a little shout out in this slide
to say that we do offer employment opportunities
for folks who are interested in joining our team,
and becoming a mentor with our art studios
or a direct service professional in some of our other programs.
So you can always connect with us
and find out more about those opportunities.
I want to now invite you to meet Paige Wery,
she'll take over in a minute.
But I did want to say that as director
and curator of the Tierra del Sol gallery,
she's brought just wonderful things.
Along with Pete, who's here, the gallery manager.
They both have brought wonderful things for our artists,
and no end to the opportunities locally and globally.
But Paige comes to us with a lot of professional experience,
very successful as an artist herself by showing and making--
make your own work and showing.
And then moving on to being an editor of Artillery Magazine.
Very exciting magazine and also running The Good Luck Gallery
in Chinatown for many years.
And that's how we got to know Paige.
She now joined us as Tierra del Soul's director and curator
of the gallery, and it's so exciting to see the potential.
Even after 31 years for me, it feels
like we're just starting again and we're going
into so many new directions.
Beautiful team, thank you all.
So now I'm going to turn it over to Paige, and here she is.
Thank you, Rebecca.
We don't really talk about my art making because it's
embarrassing, but that's OK.
Cats out the bag now.
Hello, everybody.
Thank you so much for being here.
And like I said earlier, I am the gallery director
and curator at this new location for Tierra del Sol.
We've just been here for about a year and a half, and before
that the gallery was located out in Claremont, like Rebecca
said.
We are in Chinatown, in Los Angeles,
that's the front of our adorable little building.
And we are here because there are
other galleries on the street.
So we are part of Los Angeles Contemporary Art Scene,
back before COVID, there would be five or six art openings.
We would try and coordinate them and it
was an amazing introduction to the underrepresented artists
which are part of Tierra del Sol.
And so this is a way to bring them into Los Angeles
and get more attention, and this location is a big part of that.
So our very first show that we did in 2019 was Evan Hines.
And this is Evan doing an art talk.
Evan loves to talk about the stories behind each piece,
and so he came in and selected like his favorite maybe
five or six pieces, and then he told the stories
behind all of those in front of a live audience.
It was super cool.
This is one of Evans pieces, just
so you can see one up close and the detail that
goes into his work.
But I wanted to talk about the fact
that I generally do solo shows, because a lot of time
the artist that we are showing a lot of people in the Los
Angeles contemporary art world have heard their name,
and so I select solo shows because I
want to show the depth and the talent of these artists.
So if you walk into a group show and you never
heard of an artist, and there's just one piece,
you might not fully understand the depth of their creations.
And so that is something that I lean towards,
which is doing solo shows for our artists.
Let me also say that I'm just showing
you just a couple of the artists that we
work with at the gallery.
We are going to go on and celebrate Jackie's show in just
a little bit, but I wanted to show some of the other artists
that we work.
So this is Hugo Rochelle, who has been with our program
for 14 years.
And he is standing in front of one of the walls of his solo
show admiring his own work.
This is one of his close up pieces,
so you can see his work up close.
And Hugo is inspired a lot by telenovelas, the Mexican soap
operas.
And he does screen shots of those
or asks somebody in the studio to take a screen shot of those,
and then this is his interpretation,
he does his own interpretation, which
are amazing color blocked out kind of psychedelic pieces.
This is Mary Lou Dimsdale in the middle.
That's Rebecca on the right and Maria,
who runs the [INAUDIBLE] Studios on the left of this picture.
This is at Mary Lou Dimsdale solo show.
And again, this was Mary Lou's first solo show.
It was the first time she had seen
this many pieces of her work all framed and put up on a wall.
She showed up late to her own opening
and walked in like a rock star that she is with her fur jacket
on.
This is one of Mary Lou's pieces and something
that I love about working with the Artists from Tierra
is because nobody--
or actually some people have gone to a little bit of school,
I think Evan and went to a little bit of school.
But most of the artists--
somebody like Mary Lou didn't join our program
until she was in her 60s.
And so nobody had ever told her what was right
or what was wrong for art, and she's
coming up with these amazing--
she found her voice without anybody
telling her what was right or what was wrong,
no teachers giving her art history lessons
or anything like that.
And she along with all the other artists at Tierra,
I'm always amazed at how singular their voice is.
And that's one of the reasons why I got involved
in the non-trained art world.
This is John Maull his opening, this
is a picture of all of his family
that showed up to support him.
And again, this was a time where his family had never
seen this many pieces of John's work up on the wall,
and framed in a gallery setting.
There were openings up and down on the street,
and so it was an amazement to his family
to see all of his work up on the wall.
And really you are able to grasp the talent.
And so when it's your family member,
it was a really emotional evening for everybody
because they had just never seen his work displayed like this.
And it was a highly successful show, as most of our shows
have been actually, they've been doing quite well.
John is the artist, he's in the middle with the white outfit
on holding the flowers.
This is one of John Maull pieces,
you can see that he does layers of different colors
and that's his signature up at the top.
And then he has some texts that are very mysterious to us.
But he repeats throughout his work,
but [INAUDIBLE] John's work is absolutely beautiful,
and has this movement to it that I had never seen before.
So this is Tierra del Sol going to the art
fairs, which is a very important outreach for our artists.
We meet new collectors, we get in front of other curators
and we also sell the work.
So all of the work that we show in the gallery and at the fair
is for sale.
All sales go directly to the artists,
as well as supporting the program overall.
So the money is divided between the artists and the Tierra del
Sol Arts Program.
I did a screenshot of our social media
because I want to promote our social media.
This is another huge outreach for us as well as
all other galleries right now during COVID.
And then we also have our own website,
tierradelsolgallery that you can go and see all the works
by the artists there as well.
We also as a gallery, as a professional contemporary art
gallery, we write press releases.
And we send it out to everybody that we
know that's in the press, because of my background
we happen to have an extra long list which is excellent.
And this is just showing a fraction of what
Helen Rae, one of our artists--
she's been on covers of magazines,
she's been selected as an up and coming artist,
even though she was in her 80s when she was selected for that.
And she's just one of the artists that gets press,
but this is just a little slide to show off
some of the press we've gotten.
And now we are going to talk about Jackie Marsh's solo
show, which is here and in the gallery right now.
And I think that the next thing is
that we're going to show the video, which
is a video walk through, and it's
me telling you about the works.
Hello.
Welcome to another Tierra del Sol Gallery walk through.
Happy new year!
We are starting 2021 off with this beautiful inspiring solo
show by Jackie Marsh.
We have both drawings and ceramics.
Most of the 2D work is colored pencil, pen, graphite
and some of them have a little bit of paint.
I love this one with the little butterflies and the little
happy smiling sun, so gorgeous.
This show we really focused on her drawings of flowers.
Jackie has been with the Tierra del Sol program for 12 years,
she's from Glendora, California, born and raised and still lives
there.
Look at the way the she breaks up the space on this,
absolutely beautiful.
A real passion for what she's doing,
you can see the intensity of the pressure of the colored
pencils.
And the more you look at this work
you start to see her decisions and how confident she
is in these choices that she's making.
And then it comes together so beautifully.
And here's a beautiful psychedelic flower piece.
This one has a combination of all the things that I said,
I can see paint, I can see pens, watercolor and acrylic paint,
color pencil, another kind of psychedelic one.
She left the background clean on this one, that's just paper,
she didn't fill in every single bit for a beautiful effect.
Here is a still life.
Sometimes the more you look you start
to see little animals within her flower pieces.
Jackie has been making work since she was a child.
When Jackie isn't working on her art,
and she is extremely prolific and very
dedicated to her drawings and paintings, and ceramics.
She volunteers at animal shelters
she also has her own chickens and dogs, and cats.
Little strawberry there.
You could look at that one for ever, it's gorgeous.
Jackie also is one of the artists at the Tierra del Sol
program that likes to teach classes too.
So she's taught a bunch of classes to the public.
And Tierra del Sol teams up with museums
and they teach classes there, and then
she also does ZINE classes.
Now let's take a look at her fabulous ceramics.
I have a real love for small bowls, which is what these are.
And I'm just going to pick one up, you shouldn't touch the art
but I can.
But look at all the layers that go into something like this.
Here's two little bunny heads.
You can see some red dots already,
people have been coming in and buying.
More bowls, this lovely little vase, and then we
have a whole little family of piggies.
Which I'll show you the inside of that, see the little tail?
We also have some real miniature bowls
that I think are gorgeous too.
There's a lot of animals that are part
bowl, part animal, part vessel.
We asked her if she wanted these bowls
to be used for anything particular or are they art,
and she does not care.
She likes to find out what the collector uses her bowls for,
is it a piece of fine art or is it
something that becomes functional?
She is comfortable with both things.
This little guy.
And that is the Jackie Marsh show.
Congratulations to Jackie, and thank you guys for listening.
Hope you're having a good first year,
I know it's pretty rough out there for some people.
Stay safe, stay positive.
Come visit us, the show is open by appointment only.
You can make an appointment on our website
at, tierradelsolgallery.org.
OK Jackie.
What would you like to tell people
about this ceramic bunny, Jackie?
I was inspired by a picture of a bunny rabbit.
I like animals and have fun creating them,
I enjoy lots of color.
What would you like to tell people
about the flower painting?
I have a reference folder that I keep images
in, the images give me ideas for color and texture,
I use my intuition and what feels right to me.
I drew this painting with pencil and then,
experiment with watercolor and acrylic paint.
Very pretty.
So many animals in your work, can you
tell us about the animals that you have and their names?
For many years I volunteered at a pet store,
I helped care for the animals, I met my dog Winston as a puppy
there and bought him.
I also have a cat named Molly and I adopted her
from PetSmart.
And I have pet chickens in the backyard that give me
eggs, Lucy, Ethel, Dotty.
Tell me, what do you like about your animals?
I like taking care of my animals.
I enjoy talking to them and they are good friends.
I spend time with my chickens in the backyard,
while I water my flower garden.
I like watching the hummingbirds and butterflies,
and their color inspires my work.
We know you're a great teacher too.
I teach a ZINE workshop and some other classes too.
What would you tell someone who wants
to make their own artwork, but doesn't know where to start?
I would tell them to get a paintbrush and a palette,
and to have fun.
And how do you encourage them?
I wait for them to ask questions,
and then I try to encourage them and give them my advice.
And how is it making work at home?
I have my own art room which I enjoy.
I like taking classes on Zoom, my favorites
are gardening, drawing, painting and juggling for fun.
OK, that takes care of the questions.
I guess that's where we open up to questions from our audience.
Thank you, that was amazing.
I loved seeing your work in the gallery
format, that was really beautiful Jackie,
congratulations.
How did it feel to see your work in the gallery?
To see so much work framed and installed,
and put together in that manner, how did that feel?
It felt great.
But because it's open by appointment only
were you able to--
I assume there was no public reception, is that true?
No there is no public reception.
No opening, but we've had a steady stream
of people coming to see the show, just about
every Friday, Saturday, Thursday.
There's not a moment where we haven't gotten one person
at least, each day coming in.
I love to hear about your love of animals
and how you tend to your garden.
Clearly you're getting inspiration
from your own animals, from animals in general,
but I love the fact that you're spending time in your yard,
you're tending to your chickens and your critters,
and your garden.
So clearly you're getting a lot of inspiration
in your own backyard.
Where else do you get inspiration Jackie?
I get inspiration from images that I have collected as well.
And I can just jump in a little bit
and say that Jackie calls me in the mornings,
and it's usually after she's taking care of her animals.
And she does take them for walks around the neighborhood, right?
Mm-hmm.
She has a carriage, it's very awesome.
Jackie, you have such a wide variety
of materials that you use, paint and colored pencils,
and ceramics.
Is there any other mediums that you just can't wait to try out
or you want to try in the future?
There isn't any other mediums right now
that I would like to try out.
Jackie, how do you feel that you know that some of your pieces
have been bought, and they're going to go
to the homes of other people?
How do you feel about that?
I feel really good about that.
Do you think that you'll miss them
or are you happy that they've gone off somewhere else?
No, I'm happy that somebody else is going to enjoy them.
I bought one of your little ceramics,
so it's good to hear that.
So Jackie, we know you teach in ZINE workshops,
what other kinds of classes do you teach
and what do you like to teach the best?
Can I just say that Jackie's taught a lot of classes,
so it's hard to nail them all down.
But you did a color theory class, right?
I like doing the color theory, yes.
I hear you would be excellent at color theory,
you clearly have a really wonderful command of color.
There's actually a question from Yamisi,
I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly.
They say, hello everyone.
Thank you for this tour and discussion.
Thank you for making such colorful work.
I like your color palette, are there any favorite colors?
The pinks and blues, and greens and I don't know, other colors.
[LAUGHTER]
All of them.
Yeah.
All of them.
That really yeah.
It was mentioned that you're very prolific
and that you're always working, how often are you drawing?
Daily or do you have a schedule that you keep,
or is it just happened naturally?
It just happens naturally.
And on that note Jackie, again, we
know that you love flowers and animals,
but how do you decide, what's your process like,
how do you decide what you're going
to draw or paint, or create on a given day?
You mentioned intuition, so perhaps that's what guides you,
but I always think it's interesting to hear
how artists decide what they're going to dive into on a given
day.
Can I say that Jackie, generally she would come in
and when we were in the gallery setting
she would do ceramics part-time, and painting
the other part of the time.
And then now that we've been home,
she's been a lot more fluid and versatile
between both of those things.
Would you agree Jackie?
I agree.
Nice.
Do you miss going to the studio every day
and being with everyone at TDS?
A little bit.
She's very active on the Zoom classes and very present.
So she sees a lot, right?
Uh huh.
OK, here's a question from Lettie Romo,
I have a young artist in my house
and she's just starting, but is afraid of failing.
Do you have any words that you would
share with a young artist?
Well I would just tell her to do whatever she likes
to do, and just go with it.
And just use paint brushes and palettes, and color.
Just dive in, right?
Yeah.
Keep doing it.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
That's good advice for anybody, any age I think actually.
I'm Patti Hines, Evan Hines's mom,
and Evan is a colleague of Jackie's and Jackie you're--
Co-worker.
A co-worker.
OK.
Jackie your work is so joyful, it just fills me with joy
to look at it.
Each piece is brighter and richer than the next almost.
And I'm just wondering if you are filled with joy
while you're working on this, are you
just bubbling over with joy as you're painting
and filling up your paper with all these beautiful colors
and shapes?
Does it bring you as much joy as it brings all of us?
Yeah.
It brings me a lot of joy and happiness.
Well that's good it really shows.
Thank you for a wonderful show, very inspirational.
You're welcome.
Very nice.
So I have a question for Pete, I think.
So for those of us who maybe can't get out to the gallery
during Jackie show, obviously I know you guys use social media,
and the video we just saw so that we
can see some of the art.
Is there a way for any of us who are interested in purchasing
work, do you guys sell online?
What does that look like in the virtual landscape?
Yeah.
So every day we usually post a new image of the show
online on our Instagram account, so you can see the work there.
We also have all the pieces in the show on our website,
you could all the work online on our website.
And it has the dimensions, the prices,
and it's updated immediately.
So if somebody purchases a piece you
see exactly that it's not available.
I was looking at that recently and there's
a lot of for sales, so congratulations Jackie.
Thank you.
I have a question for Jackie.
Are you surprised at how many small pieces were out
for this show?
Yeah.
I was really surprised at how many small pieces were out
for the show.
Me too.
Rebecca mentioned that Tierra del Sol is always also looking
for artists to join the team, like you Laura.
Can you talk about that a bit, in case
we have any artists who might be interested
once things open up again, and resume normal operations.
Yeah.
We have between six and eight artists
in our core team for each mentor.
And we work individually, and we help them with making goals,
and we do it together.
And we go over their process and their artwork,
and it's just really pretty great
because you can see where they--
it's hard for all artists I feel like,
but to have a mentor that you can
chat with and talk about things with is pretty amazing.
So we just do that pretty much daily, and we have classes.
So I've learned a lot in this time
too, because I had no idea about Zoom and all that.
So I host painting classes and ceramics
and we even have reading classes like literature
and that kind of stuff.
But we have the freedom to make the classes that we
want to make, and so we talk with our artists
and we decide what it is that we're all interested in,
and then we work together on that.
And then sometimes they co-host, and sometimes they participate,
and it's a really--
I love it.
I love working with my students, it's amazing.
And on your website do you post open positions
or is it an ongoing basis?
It's on the Tierra del Sol website, you can go in there
and look for employment opportunities.
And it will tell you exactly what's expected
and you start a process and it's a pretty fair amount
of evaluation to make sure that it's a good proper fit,
but it's a very rewarding job.
And how many clients does TDS have on a regular basis?
Each mentor has between six and eight core artists,
and there's about--
I want to think eight or nine mentors.
So it's a good grouping, and there's been a lot of learning.
And really one of the greatest things about being on Zoom,
and doing things remotely is the independence that it fosters,
and getting to know the families behind the artists too.
Do most of the artists spend a bulk of their day with y'all?
When we were in the studios?
Oh yeah, yeah.
And we did-- so we'd have studio days
and we'd have days where we went out into the world.
And once a week we would go out and we'd go to museums,
we'd go to lunch we do different things.
And it was just like we take the train into LA, and walk around
and see a lot of shows, and it's an amazing opportunity for me
as well.
And so Yeah, definitely.
But we did it all day long.
From the program went--
depending on what your hours were so in between 10 o'clock
in the morning to 3 o'clock, or some people came
in a little bit later and then they would stay till like 6:00.
And I think that this whole new system we've got now,
we'll probably open it up for more remote work.
So we could have somebody who didn't
want to come into the studio, couldn't or wanted
to have half times or hybrid.
And what do you think you'll go back to Jackie,
do you have any idea?
She's actually in a transition, right now,
where she's moving and trying to figure out
how that remote would work.
Yeah.
I'm trying to figure that all out.
Can we see your sweatshirt, what does it say?
Dog Mom.
I love it.
So are you surrounded by art in your home,
do you have your art everywhere?
Yeah.
I have my art everywhere.
Can you comment a little bit about your little area
that you created since you've been home to make your art in?
Yeah.
It was actually a kitchen look and then
I turned it into my art room.
Perfect lighting, it's a great.
Big table.
You took over the kitchen table?
Yeah.
The whole kitchen.
I think it's [INAUDIBLE]
It's really cute, it's awesome.
Yeah.
And then, there's also three walls of Windows.
Excellent light, like you said.
Speaking of your art collection and those
that are surrounding you, being part of Tierra del Sol Jackie,
are you able to collect and trade art
with the other artists?
Do you have a good art collection?
I've never done that.
No?
No.
That's a great question.
I was wondering the same thing Andy.
You would think.
But there's not a lot of trading in that kind of venue,
because they're practicing artists.
So they're selling and accumulating
for shows and things.
That makes sense.
Oh Jackie, one last question.
I just wanted to ask, I love to ask artists what they're
interested in reading or watching, or listening to,
is there anything that's really like, you're excited
about right now, a book or a TV show, or a film,
or a band or anything like that?
The gardening class that I take.
And that's on Zoom yeah?
A very excellent answer, because she does
go to the gardening class, and she does a lot of drawings
there.
So it's pretty great.
And juggling, she's a fabulous juggler.
Yes.
That's so cool.
[INTERPOSING VOICES]
Next time you'll have to show us.
Well I want to thank you so much Jackie,
and congratulate you on your brilliant show.
And thank you to everybody at TDS and the gallery.
We appreciate your time and your creativity, and your energy.
We just love what you'll do there,
and we can't thank you enough.
Reminder to attendees to visit us as Roman mentioned
at, chaffey.edu/wignall.
You can eventually see archived episodes
from the past, which will include this one.
And you can also see upcoming episodes.
So we invite you to sign up for anything
that might interest you.
And then Roman will also put a link to a very short survey,
we'd appreciate it if you would take
two minutes to complete that.
It just helps us to do our job and to be
more responsive to all of you in the future.
But Thanks so much.
Congrats Jackie.
Love having you here today.
Good to see you all.
Thanks for having us.
This has been great.
Thanks everybody, take care.
Thank you.
Bye bye.