WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.840 align:middle line:90% 00:00:10.840 --> 00:00:11.660 align:middle line:90% Hello, everyone. 00:00:11.660 --> 00:00:12.160 align:middle line:90% Welcome. 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:14.800 align:middle line:84% Thank you for joining us in today's program featuring 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:17.740 align:middle line:84% LA-based artist, Isabel Avila, presented 00:00:17.740 --> 00:00:20.200 align:middle line:84% as part of the Wignall Museum's Home Edition, 00:00:20.200 --> 00:00:22.430 align:middle line:84% a series of curated artists talks, 00:00:22.430 --> 00:00:24.310 align:middle line:84% workshops, and discussions featuring 00:00:24.310 --> 00:00:26.420 align:middle line:90% artists and cultural workers. 00:00:26.420 --> 00:00:27.550 align:middle line:90% My name is Rebecca Trawick. 00:00:27.550 --> 00:00:30.430 align:middle line:84% I'm the director and curator of the Wignall Museum. 00:00:30.430 --> 00:00:33.550 align:middle line:84% The Wignall Museum is a teaching museum and interdisciplinary 00:00:33.550 --> 00:00:36.590 align:middle line:84% arts space that introduces Chaffey College students, 00:00:36.590 --> 00:00:39.280 align:middle line:84% faculty, staff, and community members 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:42.680 align:middle line:84% to innovative contemporary art objects and ideas. 00:00:42.680 --> 00:00:46.160 align:middle line:84% By fostering critical thinking, visual literacy, discourse, 00:00:46.160 --> 00:00:48.550 align:middle line:84% and empathy, the museum seeks to enhance 00:00:48.550 --> 00:00:51.950 align:middle line:84% the intellectual and cultural life of our community. 00:00:51.950 --> 00:00:54.460 align:middle line:84% We want to take a moment to recognize that we are situated 00:00:54.460 --> 00:00:57.730 align:middle line:84% on the Rancho Cucamonga Campus of Chaffey College, which 00:00:57.730 --> 00:01:00.460 align:middle line:84% resides on the traditional and unceded lands of the Tongva 00:01:00.460 --> 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preparator at the museum. 00:02:00.210 --> 00:02:02.070 align:middle line:84% Along with Rebecca and Roman, I'll 00:02:02.070 --> 00:02:04.290 align:middle line:84% be assisting in today's Zoom session. 00:02:04.290 --> 00:02:07.560 align:middle line:84% In a moment, Isabel will present for about a half an hour, 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.830 align:middle line:84% with the remaining time being available for Q&A. 00:02:10.830 --> 00:02:12.120 align:middle line:90% Thanks, Roman and Andy. 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:15.630 align:middle line:84% Today I'm pleased to introduce our guest artist, Isabel Avila. 00:02:15.630 --> 00:02:18.330 align:middle line:84% Isabel Avila is a Los Angeles-based artist 00:02:18.330 --> 00:02:20.970 align:middle line:84% who primarily uses color film photography 00:02:20.970 --> 00:02:24.390 align:middle line:84% to document aspects of cultural history. 00:02:24.390 --> 00:02:27.210 align:middle line:84% Isabel is dedicated to exploring local histories of Southern 00:02:27.210 --> 00:02:29.640 align:middle line:84% California, focusing on presenting 00:02:29.640 --> 00:02:32.190 align:middle line:84% a subjective perspective of the overlap 00:02:32.190 --> 00:02:35.010 align:middle line:84% in local, Native, and Chicano culture. 00:02:35.010 --> 00:02:36.765 align:middle line:84% Avila's photographs show the history 00:02:36.765 --> 00:02:39.210 align:middle line:84% of living, working, and actively creating 00:02:39.210 --> 00:02:42.540 align:middle line:84% a counternarrative to mainstream perception. 00:02:42.540 --> 00:02:44.880 align:middle line:84% Avila received her MFA in photography 00:02:44.880 --> 00:02:47.190 align:middle line:84% at Cal State University at Long Beach 00:02:47.190 --> 00:02:49.380 align:middle line:84% and her BFA in photography and imaging 00:02:49.380 --> 00:02:51.990 align:middle line:90% at Art Center College of Design. 00:02:51.990 --> 00:02:54.210 align:middle line:84% Avila's work has been shown at institutions 00:02:54.210 --> 00:02:57.480 align:middle line:84% such as the Vincent Price Art Museum, our own Wignall 00:02:57.480 --> 00:03:00.000 align:middle line:84% Museum, the University of Dayton, 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:02.820 align:middle line:84% and LACMA's Charles White Gallery. 00:03:02.820 --> 00:03:04.860 align:middle line:84% Work from her Native America series 00:03:04.860 --> 00:03:06.600 align:middle line:84% join the collection at the Gene Autry 00:03:06.600 --> 00:03:08.685 align:middle line:90% Museum of Western Heritage. 00:03:08.685 --> 00:03:11.220 align:middle line:84% Avila has completed a series of eight portraits 00:03:11.220 --> 00:03:15.330 align:middle line:84% of Native Americans for the permanent exhibit Becoming LA 00:03:15.330 --> 00:03:18.690 align:middle line:84% at the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles. 00:03:18.690 --> 00:03:20.700 align:middle line:84% So please join me in welcoming Isabel 00:03:20.700 --> 00:03:23.220 align:middle line:84% and give her a warm virtual welcome. 00:03:23.220 --> 00:03:26.180 align:middle line:84% Isabel, welcome and take it away. 00:03:26.180 --> 00:03:29.710 align:middle line:84% I just want to say thank you to everyone for being here, 00:03:29.710 --> 00:03:30.930 align:middle line:90% and thanks for having me. 00:03:30.930 --> 00:03:36.060 align:middle line:90% 00:03:36.060 --> 00:03:39.120 align:middle line:84% Basically, I'm a photo-based artist, 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:44.200 align:middle line:84% working in Tongva Territory, also known as Los Angeles. 00:03:44.200 --> 00:03:48.750 align:middle line:84% And when I'm making my work, I am 00:03:48.750 --> 00:03:53.640 align:middle line:84% exploring pretty much personal identity, family history, 00:03:53.640 --> 00:03:56.800 align:middle line:84% history of land, Indigenous, political, 00:03:56.800 --> 00:04:00.240 align:middle line:84% and colonial history, evolution of cultural history 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:04.080 align:middle line:84% and identity, race and effects of discrimination. 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:09.990 align:middle line:84% And this is my exploration of putting the pieces together 00:04:09.990 --> 00:04:12.690 align:middle line:90% of my own family history. 00:04:12.690 --> 00:04:18.230 align:middle line:84% So I think things start with my questions 00:04:18.230 --> 00:04:21.649 align:middle line:84% to my grandmother, who is now deceased. 00:04:21.649 --> 00:04:27.620 align:middle line:84% And these are both pictures of her and the one in the left 00:04:27.620 --> 00:04:31.050 align:middle line:84% is the portrait she took when she was 18, I believe. 00:04:31.050 --> 00:04:37.705 align:middle line:84% And she signed it Bretha Martinez. 00:04:37.705 --> 00:04:44.130 align:middle line:90% 00:04:44.130 --> 00:04:45.880 align:middle line:84% Well, let me rewind a little bit. 00:04:45.880 --> 00:04:52.050 align:middle line:84% So I would ask my grandmother basically about family heritage 00:04:52.050 --> 00:04:54.480 align:middle line:84% and a lot of what was passed down 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:59.730 align:middle line:84% was a lot of Spanish ancestry as to what part of Spain 00:04:59.730 --> 00:05:03.280 align:middle line:84% my family is from and things of that nature. 00:05:03.280 --> 00:05:07.140 align:middle line:84% But a lot of the Native ancestry was 00:05:07.140 --> 00:05:10.500 align:middle line:84% sort of hidden or kept or something that 00:05:10.500 --> 00:05:15.360 align:middle line:84% was to be ashamed of and something that was 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.370 align:middle line:90% intentionally not passed down. 00:05:17.370 --> 00:05:21.630 align:middle line:84% So it started to get me more interested 00:05:21.630 --> 00:05:27.240 align:middle line:84% in knowing about that aspect of my ancestry. 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:30.150 align:middle line:84% And if I can bring attention to her signature 00:05:30.150 --> 00:05:33.910 align:middle line:84% again on this photograph, her name is Dolores 00:05:33.910 --> 00:05:36.240 align:middle line:90% but she signed it Bretha. 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:40.800 align:middle line:84% And that's like a derogatory term 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:48.360 align:middle line:84% that is used to describe darker skinned girls. 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:53.400 align:middle line:84% And by looking at the signature, it 00:05:53.400 --> 00:05:55.440 align:middle line:90% looks like she wrote over it. 00:05:55.440 --> 00:06:00.780 align:middle line:84% Maybe she wrote Dolores on it and then wrote over it, Bretha. 00:06:00.780 --> 00:06:09.150 align:middle line:84% And it was sort of loaded that this term that was given to her 00:06:09.150 --> 00:06:13.980 align:middle line:84% was something that she probably didn't really want 00:06:13.980 --> 00:06:22.080 align:middle line:84% and this active awareness of your skin color in sort 00:06:22.080 --> 00:06:24.600 align:middle line:90% of a caste system. 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:26.460 align:middle line:84% And then the picture on the right 00:06:26.460 --> 00:06:29.400 align:middle line:84% is also of her that I took much later in undergrad 00:06:29.400 --> 00:06:32.980 align:middle line:84% but I just threw it in there as a sort of contrast 00:06:32.980 --> 00:06:37.170 align:middle line:84% of what it would be like photographing her 00:06:37.170 --> 00:06:41.190 align:middle line:84% in a sort of classical setting, which was something 00:06:41.190 --> 00:06:44.520 align:middle line:84% that I thought would be interesting to do. 00:06:44.520 --> 00:06:47.400 align:middle line:90% So I took that. 00:06:47.400 --> 00:06:49.980 align:middle line:84% And these pictures will come in later, 00:06:49.980 --> 00:06:54.090 align:middle line:90% which I will show you in a bit. 00:06:54.090 --> 00:06:57.310 align:middle line:84% The image on the left is of my great grandfather. 00:06:57.310 --> 00:07:06.150 align:middle line:84% This is my grandmother's father, who was of Native descent 00:07:06.150 --> 00:07:09.690 align:middle line:90% and her mother was very Spanish. 00:07:09.690 --> 00:07:14.100 align:middle line:84% Light-skinned, blue-eyed, fair-haired, and everything. 00:07:14.100 --> 00:07:19.290 align:middle line:84% And she ended up marrying this man that she 00:07:19.290 --> 00:07:20.700 align:middle line:90% met working on the railroads. 00:07:20.700 --> 00:07:22.117 align:middle line:84% They were working on the railroads 00:07:22.117 --> 00:07:23.580 align:middle line:90% out here in California. 00:07:23.580 --> 00:07:29.380 align:middle line:84% And basically, my grandmother's mother was widowed. 00:07:29.380 --> 00:07:33.090 align:middle line:84% They were Spanish ranchers and the husband 00:07:33.090 --> 00:07:37.440 align:middle line:90% got murdered for the ranch. 00:07:37.440 --> 00:07:40.710 align:middle line:84% And so she was widowed with quite a few children 00:07:40.710 --> 00:07:44.430 align:middle line:84% so she married this man that I guess you can say 00:07:44.430 --> 00:07:47.370 align:middle line:90% was below her caste or whatever. 00:07:47.370 --> 00:07:51.000 align:middle line:84% And she had more children with him. 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:55.980 align:middle line:84% And the product of that second marriage was my grandmother. 00:07:55.980 --> 00:07:59.370 align:middle line:84% And so thinking about this environment 00:07:59.370 --> 00:08:01.500 align:middle line:84% that my grandmother grew up in that 00:08:01.500 --> 00:08:06.570 align:middle line:84% was a family environment that actually was there 00:08:06.570 --> 00:08:10.320 align:middle line:84% was internalized prejudice in that family. 00:08:10.320 --> 00:08:13.500 align:middle line:84% And so, there's a lot of these issues 00:08:13.500 --> 00:08:17.130 align:middle line:84% I think that exist in Latino culture 00:08:17.130 --> 00:08:21.600 align:middle line:84% that people don't deal with or haven't dealt with. 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:26.970 align:middle line:84% And then the image on the right is another family image. 00:08:26.970 --> 00:08:29.520 align:middle line:84% It's my aunt's but I'm using it as an example 00:08:29.520 --> 00:08:33.570 align:middle line:84% as all of our family members have gone 00:08:33.570 --> 00:08:43.409 align:middle line:84% through this religious ceremony of Catholicism, 00:08:43.409 --> 00:08:44.670 align:middle line:90% first communion. 00:08:44.670 --> 00:08:53.550 align:middle line:84% And it's a reflection of the church's role in society 00:08:53.550 --> 00:08:59.010 align:middle line:84% as contributing to some level of erasure, 00:08:59.010 --> 00:09:03.110 align:middle line:90% which we'll get to later. 00:09:03.110 --> 00:09:08.450 align:middle line:84% So in this photograph I took, I got that old photograph 00:09:08.450 --> 00:09:11.780 align:middle line:84% of my grandmother that I showed you guys 00:09:11.780 --> 00:09:14.450 align:middle line:90% and I stretched it out. 00:09:14.450 --> 00:09:20.960 align:middle line:84% And I've always been a fan of that classic painting, 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:25.040 align:middle line:84% the Holbein painting, The Ambassadors, which 00:09:25.040 --> 00:09:29.810 align:middle line:84% have the skull that stretched out, the anamorphic skull. 00:09:29.810 --> 00:09:34.040 align:middle line:90% And I love that painting. 00:09:34.040 --> 00:09:38.390 align:middle line:84% So I got that photograph of my grandmother 00:09:38.390 --> 00:09:42.920 align:middle line:84% and I stretched it out in this way, where 00:09:42.920 --> 00:09:47.090 align:middle line:84% it obscures her identity, obscures who she is, 00:09:47.090 --> 00:09:51.200 align:middle line:84% and embodies the feeling of me trying 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:59.330 align:middle line:84% to explore or know some aspects to this family history. 00:09:59.330 --> 00:10:03.680 align:middle line:84% But just like the Holbein painting, 00:10:03.680 --> 00:10:10.060 align:middle line:84% this anamorphic space here, it can be viewed from an angle 00:10:10.060 --> 00:10:14.432 align:middle line:84% and then you can actually see the distortion. 00:10:14.432 --> 00:10:17.710 align:middle line:84% It will shrink in space and you can actually 00:10:17.710 --> 00:10:24.210 align:middle line:84% see the image, if you see it from a certain angle. 00:10:24.210 --> 00:10:26.700 align:middle line:84% And then I used a couple of these other images 00:10:26.700 --> 00:10:28.920 align:middle line:90% that I just showed you. 00:10:28.920 --> 00:10:35.040 align:middle line:84% This is like an exploration of exploring and just thinking 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:43.350 align:middle line:84% about family issues and history and past and how these things, 00:10:43.350 --> 00:10:44.850 align:middle line:90% they carry a lot of weight. 00:10:44.850 --> 00:10:50.910 align:middle line:84% And they carry a lot of weight on the individual as product 00:10:50.910 --> 00:10:56.280 align:middle line:84% of these things and how there's historical trauma and family 00:10:56.280 --> 00:10:58.860 align:middle line:84% trauma, things that get passed down. 00:10:58.860 --> 00:11:01.740 align:middle line:84% And just thinking about ways, how people 00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:05.070 align:middle line:84% deal with these things or how do you navigate 00:11:05.070 --> 00:11:08.880 align:middle line:84% through these issues that are very personal and also 00:11:08.880 --> 00:11:11.010 align:middle line:90% very social and broad. 00:11:11.010 --> 00:11:17.030 align:middle line:84% So this is a representation of that. 00:11:17.030 --> 00:11:23.460 align:middle line:84% So thinking about these issues of internalized family racism 00:11:23.460 --> 00:11:32.820 align:middle line:84% and social class structures and caste and things. 00:11:32.820 --> 00:11:37.520 align:middle line:84% Thinking about the time also that my ancestors or people 00:11:37.520 --> 00:11:41.810 align:middle line:84% living in this area at the time, what they experienced 00:11:41.810 --> 00:11:46.470 align:middle line:84% as new waves of influence-- political, 00:11:46.470 --> 00:11:52.580 align:middle line:84% social, cultural influences, started to come into the Los 00:11:52.580 --> 00:12:03.560 align:middle line:84% Angeles area and thinking about the current living history 00:12:03.560 --> 00:12:06.530 align:middle line:84% and where these things come from. 00:12:06.530 --> 00:12:14.370 align:middle line:84% So I started to look at Junipero Serra, who was the man, 00:12:14.370 --> 00:12:15.110 align:middle line:90% he was the friar. 00:12:15.110 --> 00:12:18.350 align:middle line:90% 00:12:18.350 --> 00:12:21.620 align:middle line:84% He was an agent of the Spanish Inquisition. 00:12:21.620 --> 00:12:28.040 align:middle line:84% Basically, he came out to America 00:12:28.040 --> 00:12:34.030 align:middle line:90% to develop the mission system. 00:12:34.030 --> 00:12:40.010 align:middle line:84% And he developed the mission system 00:12:40.010 --> 00:12:45.750 align:middle line:84% and he's so ingrained in the history of California. 00:12:45.750 --> 00:12:49.680 align:middle line:90% 00:12:49.680 --> 00:12:52.080 align:middle line:90% He's just everywhere. 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:55.200 align:middle line:84% There's so many different things that are named after him. 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:58.710 align:middle line:84% And I basically took some photographs 00:12:58.710 --> 00:13:03.240 align:middle line:84% of buildings and schools and libraries and streets 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:06.730 align:middle line:84% and different things that were named after him. 00:13:06.730 --> 00:13:11.230 align:middle line:90% His memorials, essentially. 00:13:11.230 --> 00:13:13.230 align:middle line:90% So this is a little bit of that. 00:13:13.230 --> 00:13:29.460 align:middle line:90% 00:13:29.460 --> 00:13:33.170 align:middle line:84% This is just a close up of the Junipero Serra building. 00:13:33.170 --> 00:13:40.430 align:middle line:84% So you can see the name right there. 00:13:40.430 --> 00:13:44.420 align:middle line:84% And then these are books that I checked out 00:13:44.420 --> 00:13:50.570 align:middle line:84% from the Junipero Serra Library on Junipero Serra. 00:13:50.570 --> 00:13:55.910 align:middle line:84% And that was really interesting because they 00:13:55.910 --> 00:14:00.670 align:middle line:84% had a lot of children's books that were there 00:14:00.670 --> 00:14:04.240 align:middle line:84% teaching children who he is and what he stood for 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.210 align:middle line:84% and how important he is to California history, 00:14:07.210 --> 00:14:14.680 align:middle line:84% and failed to give a bigger picture of the complexity 00:14:14.680 --> 00:14:19.450 align:middle line:84% of the situation because history is very complex 00:14:19.450 --> 00:14:24.010 align:middle line:84% and his role is very controversial. 00:14:24.010 --> 00:14:30.370 align:middle line:84% And basically, the Native community 00:14:30.370 --> 00:14:33.310 align:middle line:84% is greatly impacted in a negative way 00:14:33.310 --> 00:14:36.070 align:middle line:90% based on what he did. 00:14:36.070 --> 00:14:41.020 align:middle line:84% Though there's a lot of conflict of ideas where it's compared 00:14:41.020 --> 00:14:43.510 align:middle line:84% to other situations maybe on the East Coast, where 00:14:43.510 --> 00:14:45.220 align:middle line:84% the Natives didn't have any rights. 00:14:45.220 --> 00:14:47.440 align:middle line:90% At least, he gave some rights. 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:50.455 align:middle line:90% He didn't kill everybody. 00:14:50.455 --> 00:14:56.180 align:middle line:84% But he openly was for torturous punishment, 00:14:56.180 --> 00:15:00.710 align:middle line:84% and basically, enslavement of Native people. 00:15:00.710 --> 00:15:07.190 align:middle line:84% But that was still not above treatment of them elsewhere. 00:15:07.190 --> 00:15:13.290 align:middle line:84% So putting the pieces together of history and treatment 00:15:13.290 --> 00:15:17.400 align:middle line:84% of brown people, I guess is what I'm saying. 00:15:17.400 --> 00:15:23.100 align:middle line:84% And this is an image of one of those California mission 00:15:23.100 --> 00:15:26.160 align:middle line:84% projects, the school mission projects 00:15:26.160 --> 00:15:30.810 align:middle line:84% that every fourth grader was supposed to make, 00:15:30.810 --> 00:15:32.550 align:middle line:90% I remember making one. 00:15:32.550 --> 00:15:38.060 align:middle line:84% And I took this picture up the street from me. 00:15:38.060 --> 00:15:41.210 align:middle line:84% And it was just a discarded piece 00:15:41.210 --> 00:15:47.600 align:middle line:84% and I just thought how symbolic it was in a sense. 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:52.400 align:middle line:84% But today, I think that there is a little more awareness 00:15:52.400 --> 00:15:54.560 align:middle line:90% and a little more education. 00:15:54.560 --> 00:15:58.650 align:middle line:90% I don't really know exactly how. 00:15:58.650 --> 00:16:01.310 align:middle line:84% I think there's some change as to how 00:16:01.310 --> 00:16:03.200 align:middle line:84% they're presenting that California 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:05.420 align:middle line:90% history to students these days. 00:16:05.420 --> 00:16:10.520 align:middle line:84% But up to maybe a year or two ago, I still went to a school 00:16:10.520 --> 00:16:13.670 align:middle line:84% and I photographed a lot of these mission projects 00:16:13.670 --> 00:16:18.650 align:middle line:84% and I still have these other images of these missions. 00:16:18.650 --> 00:16:20.910 align:middle line:84% And so I mean, I find it fascinating. 00:16:20.910 --> 00:16:24.500 align:middle line:84% But the mission, it was romanticized. 00:16:24.500 --> 00:16:30.410 align:middle line:90% 00:16:30.410 --> 00:16:32.480 align:middle line:84% The reenvisioning of the mission, 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:35.900 align:middle line:84% how it was romanticized, was used during the real estate 00:16:35.900 --> 00:16:38.000 align:middle line:84% boom and the economic boom in California 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:41.330 align:middle line:90% to bring people to California. 00:16:41.330 --> 00:16:45.690 align:middle line:84% So the missions were dilapidated and then picked up. 00:16:45.690 --> 00:16:50.000 align:middle line:84% This is like makeover as this romantic era 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.910 align:middle line:84% so that investors can come out to California. 00:16:53.910 --> 00:16:58.430 align:middle line:90% So there's more to it than that. 00:16:58.430 --> 00:17:01.740 align:middle line:90% 00:17:01.740 --> 00:17:07.740 align:middle line:84% These are two descendants of the San Gabriel Mission. 00:17:07.740 --> 00:17:12.750 align:middle line:84% They're both Tongva, these two ladies, Gloria Arellanes 00:17:12.750 --> 00:17:15.130 align:middle line:90% and Mitzla Aguilera. 00:17:15.130 --> 00:17:19.810 align:middle line:84% So I always see my practice as like digging 00:17:19.810 --> 00:17:24.460 align:middle line:90% deeper like what leads to what. 00:17:24.460 --> 00:17:34.160 align:middle line:84% And so, these two women are Tongva representatives. 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:36.970 align:middle line:90% Very active in their community. 00:17:36.970 --> 00:17:42.310 align:middle line:84% And Gloria Arellanes, on the left, 00:17:42.310 --> 00:17:45.700 align:middle line:84% I met her when I was doing my Vincent Price project 00:17:45.700 --> 00:17:48.130 align:middle line:84% and I was looking for someone that's 00:17:48.130 --> 00:17:54.010 align:middle line:84% overlapped Native community and Chicano community 00:17:54.010 --> 00:17:55.810 align:middle line:90% and that was active in both. 00:17:55.810 --> 00:17:57.700 align:middle line:90% And she really embodied that. 00:17:57.700 --> 00:18:01.150 align:middle line:84% She is very active in both communities. 00:18:01.150 --> 00:18:05.230 align:middle line:84% She's an elder in the community now and is doing a lot of work. 00:18:05.230 --> 00:18:08.130 align:middle line:90% 00:18:08.130 --> 00:18:13.670 align:middle line:90% And so I'll go back to her. 00:18:13.670 --> 00:18:17.900 align:middle line:84% She took me into her life really and she calls me daughter 00:18:17.900 --> 00:18:20.870 align:middle line:84% and I have a very close relationship with her. 00:18:20.870 --> 00:18:24.380 align:middle line:84% And we go to a lot events together. 00:18:24.380 --> 00:18:25.400 align:middle line:90% We're pretty close. 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:26.950 align:middle line:90% And it's a good thing. 00:18:26.950 --> 00:18:29.770 align:middle line:90% 00:18:29.770 --> 00:18:32.950 align:middle line:84% And I did want to add, I did take these pictures 00:18:32.950 --> 00:18:36.610 align:middle line:90% at the CSULB Pow Wow. 00:18:36.610 --> 00:18:40.660 align:middle line:84% And I tried to photograph there every powwow 00:18:40.660 --> 00:18:45.380 align:middle line:90% and I have other images as well. 00:18:45.380 --> 00:18:56.180 align:middle line:84% Another inspiration was the La Raza Exhibit at the Gene Autry 00:18:56.180 --> 00:18:59.210 align:middle line:84% Museum and looking at the magazine, 00:18:59.210 --> 00:19:02.930 align:middle line:84% that political newspaper that existed out 00:19:02.930 --> 00:19:08.900 align:middle line:84% of the Church of the Epiphany and the kind of work 00:19:08.900 --> 00:19:10.160 align:middle line:90% that they were doing. 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.200 align:middle line:84% And that exhibit, I don't know if anyone 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:15.320 align:middle line:84% got a chance to see it, but it was a really great exhibit. 00:19:15.320 --> 00:19:19.790 align:middle line:84% Well prepared for photo lovers and political movement lovers 00:19:19.790 --> 00:19:20.570 align:middle line:90% and stuff. 00:19:20.570 --> 00:19:22.420 align:middle line:90% But it was a great exhibit. 00:19:22.420 --> 00:19:28.430 align:middle line:84% I have over 300 photographs and a lot of historic stuff. 00:19:28.430 --> 00:19:31.280 align:middle line:84% And what I was looking at were things 00:19:31.280 --> 00:19:45.170 align:middle line:84% like how these cross-cultural struggles like how the Chicano 00:19:45.170 --> 00:19:50.780 align:middle line:84% community was basically supporting mutiny 00:19:50.780 --> 00:19:54.510 align:middle line:84% and also a lot of the Black Panther situation. 00:19:54.510 --> 00:19:56.780 align:middle line:84% So there's a lot of intersectionality 00:19:56.780 --> 00:19:59.510 align:middle line:90% that was happening back then. 00:19:59.510 --> 00:20:02.570 align:middle line:84% And here on the cover of La Raza magazine 00:20:02.570 --> 00:20:06.320 align:middle line:84% is Russell Means and the issue of Wounded Knee that 00:20:06.320 --> 00:20:09.950 align:middle line:84% was happening in the early '70s, and they 00:20:09.950 --> 00:20:13.010 align:middle line:84% were showing their support of that struggles. 00:20:13.010 --> 00:20:15.020 align:middle line:84% I guess it's a colonial struggle, 00:20:15.020 --> 00:20:17.900 align:middle line:90% I guess you would say. 00:20:17.900 --> 00:20:22.870 align:middle line:90% And it's all related. 00:20:22.870 --> 00:20:26.260 align:middle line:84% And also, the magazine has played a big role 00:20:26.260 --> 00:20:27.880 align:middle line:90% in the Chicano movement. 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:30.880 align:middle line:90% 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:37.020 align:middle line:84% So these are images from that exhibit from the magazine. 00:20:37.020 --> 00:20:42.420 align:middle line:84% And the woman with the sunglasses on the top-right 00:20:42.420 --> 00:20:46.520 align:middle line:84% is Gloria, the woman that I photographed. 00:20:46.520 --> 00:20:51.820 align:middle line:84% And there are various pictures from 00:20:51.820 --> 00:20:55.840 align:middle line:84% different political rallies and such. 00:20:55.840 --> 00:20:59.680 align:middle line:84% And then on the top-left and it looks like the bottom-left 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:03.310 align:middle line:90% as well, there are Brown Berets. 00:21:03.310 --> 00:21:08.110 align:middle line:84% And I'm really fascinated with just the whole concept 00:21:08.110 --> 00:21:10.710 align:middle line:90% of the Brown Berets. 00:21:10.710 --> 00:21:14.230 align:middle line:84% Because it does fascinate because it's 00:21:14.230 --> 00:21:19.060 align:middle line:84% like it's taken after a militaristic thing. 00:21:19.060 --> 00:21:20.840 align:middle line:90% I'll go into that later. 00:21:20.840 --> 00:21:27.110 align:middle line:84% But anyway, the bottom-left is Black and Brown Solidarities, 00:21:27.110 --> 00:21:30.370 align:middle line:84% all these issues that I'm interested in. 00:21:30.370 --> 00:21:34.990 align:middle line:84% I was able to see were documented were issues 00:21:34.990 --> 00:21:37.430 align:middle line:90% in the late '60s, early '70s. 00:21:37.430 --> 00:21:40.640 align:middle line:84% And I'm just curious how these things evolved. 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:44.110 align:middle line:84% And here's Rosalio Munoz and the picture on the left 00:21:44.110 --> 00:21:50.270 align:middle line:84% is a documentation of him at that exhibit, the La Raza 00:21:50.270 --> 00:21:51.370 align:middle line:90% Exhibit. 00:21:51.370 --> 00:21:54.610 align:middle line:84% And then images of him on the right 00:21:54.610 --> 00:21:58.190 align:middle line:84% are images that I took at one of these events. 00:21:58.190 --> 00:22:02.320 align:middle line:84% So one of these commemorative events. 00:22:02.320 --> 00:22:04.800 align:middle line:84% And basically, why I'm showing this 00:22:04.800 --> 00:22:12.300 align:middle line:84% is to illustrate that my involvement extends 00:22:12.300 --> 00:22:16.020 align:middle line:84% to me seeking out and attending these events 00:22:16.020 --> 00:22:23.820 align:middle line:84% and looking for the veteran activists 00:22:23.820 --> 00:22:26.910 align:middle line:84% and speaking with them and looking 00:22:26.910 --> 00:22:32.100 align:middle line:84% at how things evolved over time and becoming friends 00:22:32.100 --> 00:22:33.130 align:middle line:90% with these people. 00:22:33.130 --> 00:22:39.120 align:middle line:84% So this is a portrait that I took of Dr. David Sanchez. 00:22:39.120 --> 00:22:44.700 align:middle line:84% He's an activist, a founding member of the Brown Berets, 00:22:44.700 --> 00:22:49.860 align:middle line:84% and really was instrumental in the walkouts. 00:22:49.860 --> 00:22:52.740 align:middle line:84% There were a few people that organized 00:22:52.740 --> 00:22:54.960 align:middle line:90% and were part of the walkouts. 00:22:54.960 --> 00:23:01.500 align:middle line:84% So I wanted to do a portrait of him just to have that. 00:23:01.500 --> 00:23:02.640 align:middle line:90% So I have this one. 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:09.260 align:middle line:84% And this image of him, he's holding a Ruben Salazar plate. 00:23:09.260 --> 00:23:12.230 align:middle line:84% And that Ruben Salazar, I don't know if anyone knows, 00:23:12.230 --> 00:23:18.670 align:middle line:84% but he was a Mexican-American activist and news reporter. 00:23:18.670 --> 00:23:20.810 align:middle line:90% He worked for the LA Times. 00:23:20.810 --> 00:23:30.890 align:middle line:84% And he was covering the Chicano moratorium of 1970, I believe, 00:23:30.890 --> 00:23:32.480 align:middle line:90% August 29. 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:40.150 align:middle line:84% And he was shot and killed by a an LA sheriff deputy. 00:23:40.150 --> 00:23:45.100 align:middle line:84% And that was a really controversial thing 00:23:45.100 --> 00:23:45.700 align:middle line:90% that happened. 00:23:45.700 --> 00:23:47.380 align:middle line:84% A lot of people believed he was targeted 00:23:47.380 --> 00:23:51.820 align:middle line:84% because his reporting started to lean towards the left, things 00:23:51.820 --> 00:23:53.050 align:middle line:90% like that. 00:23:53.050 --> 00:23:57.010 align:middle line:84% And he was becoming more of a prominent reporter, 00:23:57.010 --> 00:23:59.780 align:middle line:84% working for the mainstream media, things like that. 00:23:59.780 --> 00:24:03.070 align:middle line:84% So a lot of people feel he was targeted. 00:24:03.070 --> 00:24:07.540 align:middle line:84% So he was shot and killed at one of these events in a bar. 00:24:07.540 --> 00:24:09.180 align:middle line:90% And it was documented as well. 00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:15.280 align:middle line:84% So actually, reporters of the La Raza magazine, the editor 00:24:15.280 --> 00:24:16.570 align:middle line:90% documented it. 00:24:16.570 --> 00:24:23.620 align:middle line:84% So anyhow, this is at the site location of that shooting 00:24:23.620 --> 00:24:27.020 align:middle line:84% and I'm happy to have this image with David holding that flag, 00:24:27.020 --> 00:24:35.620 align:middle line:84% which David, he comes every year to this space to remember 00:24:35.620 --> 00:24:36.850 align:middle line:90% what happened there. 00:24:36.850 --> 00:24:40.660 align:middle line:84% And he had that flag and he put it up himself 00:24:40.660 --> 00:24:43.990 align:middle line:84% on the back of that wall, if you can see, 00:24:43.990 --> 00:24:45.580 align:middle line:90% but it never stays there. 00:24:45.580 --> 00:24:46.920 align:middle line:90% So I guess it falls off. 00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:48.400 align:middle line:90% It was his own thing. 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:50.150 align:middle line:84% I think he's trying to officialize that it 00:24:50.150 --> 00:24:52.000 align:middle line:90% was sitting on that stuff. 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.840 align:middle line:84% So as I was talking about my involvement, 00:24:55.840 --> 00:25:02.340 align:middle line:84% I try to go every year to the commemorative moratorium events 00:25:02.340 --> 00:25:08.020 align:middle line:84% and document a few things or take some portraits of people 00:25:08.020 --> 00:25:10.620 align:middle line:84% to show who's been there and what's 00:25:10.620 --> 00:25:18.070 align:middle line:84% the identity, Chicano identity or Native identity, what 00:25:18.070 --> 00:25:19.540 align:middle line:90% does it mean. 00:25:19.540 --> 00:25:23.470 align:middle line:84% So this is another portrait that we 00:25:23.470 --> 00:25:27.850 align:middle line:84% took of this woman at the moratorium event 00:25:27.850 --> 00:25:31.600 align:middle line:84% at Salazar Park, which was named after Ruben Salazar. 00:25:31.600 --> 00:25:33.570 align:middle line:84% It used to be called Laguna Park. 00:25:33.570 --> 00:25:36.740 align:middle line:90% 00:25:36.740 --> 00:25:40.040 align:middle line:84% These are more pictures of veterans 00:25:40.040 --> 00:25:45.410 align:middle line:84% of the Chicano Movement, Cesar and Cruz Olmeda. 00:25:45.410 --> 00:25:49.700 align:middle line:84% Cruz was also a significant individual who 00:25:49.700 --> 00:25:53.030 align:middle line:90% participated in the walkouts. 00:25:53.030 --> 00:25:55.160 align:middle line:84% They were quite a few different organizers 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:58.910 align:middle line:84% who participated in organizing walkouts, 00:25:58.910 --> 00:26:01.880 align:middle line:90% so he was another individual. 00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:05.060 align:middle line:84% But these photographs were taken at one 00:26:05.060 --> 00:26:06.270 align:middle line:90% of the commemorative events. 00:26:06.270 --> 00:26:10.400 align:middle line:84% So I attend the events and take my camera and photograph 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:10.910 align:middle line:90% them there. 00:26:10.910 --> 00:26:13.550 align:middle line:84% So it's not like I'm doing this in the studio or anything. 00:26:13.550 --> 00:26:15.425 align:middle line:90% It's all in the space. 00:26:15.425 --> 00:26:23.290 align:middle line:90% 00:26:23.290 --> 00:26:32.950 align:middle line:84% So looking in Chicano community, I tend to look a little deeper. 00:26:32.950 --> 00:26:35.590 align:middle line:84% I guess you can say I identify as a Chicana 00:26:35.590 --> 00:26:40.520 align:middle line:84% but I feel that my Native ancestry is still a blur. 00:26:40.520 --> 00:26:43.820 align:middle line:90% It's still not quite defined. 00:26:43.820 --> 00:26:48.910 align:middle line:84% I of have this idea where some of it 00:26:48.910 --> 00:26:54.970 align:middle line:84% is from but there's still much to be discovered in that area. 00:26:54.970 --> 00:26:59.740 align:middle line:84% And the Chicano titles encompasses 00:26:59.740 --> 00:27:01.540 align:middle line:84% that you recognize Native ancestry 00:27:01.540 --> 00:27:05.020 align:middle line:84% but it's not very specific enough. 00:27:05.020 --> 00:27:09.280 align:middle line:84% So I tend to look into Native culture 00:27:09.280 --> 00:27:11.620 align:middle line:84% to be a little more specific as when 00:27:11.620 --> 00:27:14.830 align:middle line:84% it comes to traditional values and outlook 00:27:14.830 --> 00:27:20.380 align:middle line:84% in life and perspectives of just understanding the world 00:27:20.380 --> 00:27:25.090 align:middle line:84% because Chicano culture is very much involved 00:27:25.090 --> 00:27:27.940 align:middle line:90% in this political sphere. 00:27:27.940 --> 00:27:34.090 align:middle line:84% And a lot of current political things 00:27:34.090 --> 00:27:36.340 align:middle line:84% really influence identity and things like that. 00:27:36.340 --> 00:27:40.360 align:middle line:84% Anyhow, this image is of Shannon Rivers 00:27:40.360 --> 00:27:44.170 align:middle line:84% and he's of the Tohono O'odham Nation. 00:27:44.170 --> 00:27:48.340 align:middle line:84% And this is when I was visiting Arizona 00:27:48.340 --> 00:27:54.010 align:middle line:84% and he was gathering some creosote medicine. 00:27:54.010 --> 00:27:55.150 align:middle line:90% It's a great medicine. 00:27:55.150 --> 00:27:59.750 align:middle line:84% It's great for skin issues and other things. 00:27:59.750 --> 00:28:05.770 align:middle line:84% And he gave me permission or he actually 00:28:05.770 --> 00:28:09.430 align:middle line:84% mentioned that if I can take some images of him. 00:28:09.430 --> 00:28:12.850 align:middle line:84% And so I had full permission to photograph him 00:28:12.850 --> 00:28:16.000 align:middle line:90% as he was gathering medicine. 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:24.760 align:middle line:84% But that can also be a prayerful act. 00:28:24.760 --> 00:28:30.160 align:middle line:84% So interestingly enough, that as I was taking these pictures, 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:35.770 align:middle line:84% my camera started to jam and it was malfunctioning. 00:28:35.770 --> 00:28:39.670 align:middle line:90% 00:28:39.670 --> 00:28:43.300 align:middle line:84% Well, the belief is that maybe I wasn't supposed 00:28:43.300 --> 00:28:47.260 align:middle line:84% to take the picture or maybe it was something 00:28:47.260 --> 00:28:51.640 align:middle line:84% that you're supposed to be there and you're not 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:52.930 align:middle line:90% supposed to photograph. 00:28:52.930 --> 00:28:58.110 align:middle line:84% So anyhow, this image got light leaks 00:28:58.110 --> 00:29:00.850 align:middle line:84% and the camera jammed and I had told them about it. 00:29:00.850 --> 00:29:03.340 align:middle line:84% And he was just like, oh, I guess 00:29:03.340 --> 00:29:08.290 align:middle line:84% the spirit of the medicines was really strong that day. 00:29:08.290 --> 00:29:09.415 align:middle line:90% And I guess it was. 00:29:09.415 --> 00:29:15.640 align:middle line:90% 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:20.690 align:middle line:84% I'm leaving it up to your own to decide if that's true or not. 00:29:20.690 --> 00:29:23.920 align:middle line:84% But it's something that happened to me and I think it 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.820 align:middle line:90% happened to me one other time. 00:29:27.820 --> 00:29:33.040 align:middle line:84% Anyhow, so yeah, I do call this a spirit intervention 00:29:33.040 --> 00:29:35.614 align:middle line:90% because of that incident. 00:29:35.614 --> 00:29:40.260 align:middle line:90% 00:29:40.260 --> 00:29:43.000 align:middle line:90% And this is a different series. 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:47.690 align:middle line:84% So I'm bringing this a little more back from Arizona. 00:29:47.690 --> 00:29:50.350 align:middle line:90% But this is Long Beach. 00:29:50.350 --> 00:29:54.280 align:middle line:84% This is Cal State University at Long Beach, also known 00:29:54.280 --> 00:29:56.110 align:middle line:90% as Puvungna. 00:29:56.110 --> 00:29:58.930 align:middle line:84% And for those that don't know the school, 00:29:58.930 --> 00:30:05.710 align:middle line:84% Cal State Long Beach is situated on a Tongva [INAUDIBLE] 00:30:05.710 --> 00:30:11.620 align:middle line:84% gathering space, a village space, a burial ground, a very 00:30:11.620 --> 00:30:15.350 align:middle line:90% important ceremonial space. 00:30:15.350 --> 00:30:22.020 align:middle line:84% So I went to grad school there and I was just thinking, 00:30:22.020 --> 00:30:26.020 align:middle line:84% do people walking around have any idea where they're 00:30:26.020 --> 00:30:29.170 align:middle line:84% walking on and the history of the place 00:30:29.170 --> 00:30:30.220 align:middle line:90% that they're walking on? 00:30:30.220 --> 00:30:34.270 align:middle line:84% Do we have any insight as to this kind 00:30:34.270 --> 00:30:40.070 align:middle line:84% of other world of consciousness that exists on the space? 00:30:40.070 --> 00:30:46.390 align:middle line:84% So it made me think of portals or interventions or things 00:30:46.390 --> 00:30:52.210 align:middle line:84% that we could shift our consciousness in the space. 00:30:52.210 --> 00:30:56.140 align:middle line:84% None of these images are digitally manipulated. 00:30:56.140 --> 00:30:57.830 align:middle line:90% I didn't use Photoshop. 00:30:57.830 --> 00:31:02.080 align:middle line:84% These are all images that I took and that I just 00:31:02.080 --> 00:31:06.040 align:middle line:84% printed quite large and I brought them into space 00:31:06.040 --> 00:31:09.070 align:middle line:84% and I rephotographed them into space. 00:31:09.070 --> 00:31:12.670 align:middle line:84% And I call this one Knowing Water 00:31:12.670 --> 00:31:15.400 align:middle line:84% because there's so much water around 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:22.330 align:middle line:84% and there's also, on a deeper level, there's a connectedness. 00:31:22.330 --> 00:31:25.810 align:middle line:90% There's knowledge about water. 00:31:25.810 --> 00:31:28.090 align:middle line:84% There used to be certain waterways 00:31:28.090 --> 00:31:35.800 align:middle line:84% and these streams that are now damped up or secluded 00:31:35.800 --> 00:31:37.360 align:middle line:90% or whatever. 00:31:37.360 --> 00:31:41.560 align:middle line:84% But yeah, just this relationship of water and knowing about it 00:31:41.560 --> 00:31:45.400 align:middle line:90% can really help humanity. 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.400 align:middle line:84% And then also, there's so many water issues. 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.160 align:middle line:84% There's the wetlands there that are constantly 00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:57.010 align:middle line:84% being jeopardized due to oil drilling and buildings, 00:31:57.010 --> 00:32:00.730 align:middle line:84% just like the other wetlands and other areas of California. 00:32:00.730 --> 00:32:04.570 align:middle line:90% So it's a constant issue. 00:32:04.570 --> 00:32:09.260 align:middle line:84% I call this piece Contemporary Shell Offerings. 00:32:09.260 --> 00:32:15.400 align:middle line:84% There's a part on the campus on the west side of campus 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:20.680 align:middle line:84% that's still an open site that people are trying to protect. 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:28.750 align:middle line:84% And basically, I took the picture of the shell offerings 00:32:28.750 --> 00:32:33.070 align:middle line:84% on that side of campus and then I printed it and then brought 00:32:33.070 --> 00:32:36.010 align:middle line:84% it in to the other side of campus 00:32:36.010 --> 00:32:38.700 align:middle line:84% and placed it into the Theater Building 00:32:38.700 --> 00:32:41.680 align:middle line:90% and I rephotographed it. 00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:47.523 align:middle line:84% And I was surprised how real it looks. 00:32:47.523 --> 00:32:48.940 align:middle line:84% It's doesn't look like photograph. 00:32:48.940 --> 00:32:52.420 align:middle line:84% Actually, it looks like it's cut into the ground. 00:32:52.420 --> 00:32:54.400 align:middle line:90% So I was surprised about that. 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.680 align:middle line:84% And the reason I call it Contemporary Shell Offerings 00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.170 align:middle line:84% is because there's other areas where 00:32:59.170 --> 00:33:04.690 align:middle line:84% there's shell middens where there's ancient shell midden. 00:33:04.690 --> 00:33:09.100 align:middle line:84% It's embedded into the ground hundreds of years old. 00:33:09.100 --> 00:33:15.110 align:middle line:84% But these are contemporary shell offerings 00:33:15.110 --> 00:33:19.910 align:middle line:84% that were placed more recently, which shows that the space is 00:33:19.910 --> 00:33:23.780 align:middle line:84% constantly being used and it is continually 00:33:23.780 --> 00:33:26.540 align:middle line:84% being used as a ceremonial gathering space. 00:33:26.540 --> 00:33:31.830 align:middle line:90% 00:33:31.830 --> 00:33:40.290 align:middle line:84% And I found this article and basically, 00:33:40.290 --> 00:33:43.050 align:middle line:84% printed it out and set in flames myself. 00:33:43.050 --> 00:33:46.320 align:middle line:90% 00:33:46.320 --> 00:33:48.150 align:middle line:90% Yeah, Constant Battles. 00:33:48.150 --> 00:33:50.880 align:middle line:90% I mean, there's a lot of issues. 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.260 align:middle line:84% It gets very complex, which I won't dive into. 00:33:53.260 --> 00:33:56.690 align:middle line:84% But you can actually read some aspects of the article 00:33:56.690 --> 00:34:01.215 align:middle line:84% if you blow it up large enough and the prints that I display, 00:34:01.215 --> 00:34:03.750 align:middle line:84% you can read some of it, but it talks 00:34:03.750 --> 00:34:06.240 align:middle line:90% a little bit about the space. 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.420 align:middle line:84% But I just think that it's ironic 00:34:09.420 --> 00:34:13.679 align:middle line:84% that this man is getting some notoriety for uncovering 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:18.370 align:middle line:84% something that was there that wasn't really meant to be 00:34:18.370 --> 00:34:21.674 align:middle line:90% uncovered and things like that. 00:34:21.674 --> 00:34:24.810 align:middle line:84% And it talks a little bit about the space 00:34:24.810 --> 00:34:29.350 align:middle line:84% and how important it was to the people that were there. 00:34:29.350 --> 00:34:31.210 align:middle line:90% Thinking of Future Ceremonies. 00:34:31.210 --> 00:34:37.120 align:middle line:84% So this is the area that the image and the images, the area 00:34:37.120 --> 00:34:43.100 align:middle line:84% that I was mentioning on the west side of campus that 00:34:43.100 --> 00:34:45.310 align:middle line:90% is an active ceremonial site. 00:34:45.310 --> 00:34:48.949 align:middle line:90% 00:34:48.949 --> 00:34:52.820 align:middle line:84% So I took this picture and brought it in. 00:34:52.820 --> 00:34:58.840 align:middle line:84% And I think there are some issues with the school dumping 00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:02.730 align:middle line:84% soil on the land currently and it 00:35:02.730 --> 00:35:09.580 align:middle line:84% not being removed and just disrespecting the space. 00:35:09.580 --> 00:35:11.950 align:middle line:90% But the trees are beautiful. 00:35:11.950 --> 00:35:16.180 align:middle line:84% And when I think of that space, it's 00:35:16.180 --> 00:35:18.200 align:middle line:84% like I want it to be preserved forever. 00:35:18.200 --> 00:35:22.240 align:middle line:84% But the facts are that it may not 00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:25.900 align:middle line:84% or it's going to be a constant battle for community to have 00:35:25.900 --> 00:35:28.510 align:middle line:90% it be preserved forever. 00:35:28.510 --> 00:35:34.690 align:middle line:84% So access to land is so important as we all know. 00:35:34.690 --> 00:35:38.140 align:middle line:84% And it's especially important for the Native community. 00:35:38.140 --> 00:35:41.540 align:middle line:90% 00:35:41.540 --> 00:35:45.920 align:middle line:84% So thinking about the future is connected directly to land, 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:47.200 align:middle line:90% just thinking about land. 00:35:47.200 --> 00:35:51.060 align:middle line:90% 00:35:51.060 --> 00:35:55.920 align:middle line:84% And in this image, Ways of Learning, 00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:00.240 align:middle line:84% I brought another image from the area outside, 00:36:00.240 --> 00:36:03.270 align:middle line:84% on the West side campus, that I took and brought it 00:36:03.270 --> 00:36:05.280 align:middle line:90% into the library. 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:12.420 align:middle line:84% And it signifies two ways of knowing. 00:36:12.420 --> 00:36:15.540 align:middle line:84% There are multiple ways of learning and knowing things 00:36:15.540 --> 00:36:18.780 align:middle line:84% and how we gather information and are 00:36:18.780 --> 00:36:23.290 align:middle line:84% we gathering information from books, which is a great thing. 00:36:23.290 --> 00:36:28.140 align:middle line:84% And then there's also gathering information from experience 00:36:28.140 --> 00:36:31.200 align:middle line:84% and learning directly from another person 00:36:31.200 --> 00:36:37.530 align:middle line:84% or through going through particular things in present 00:36:37.530 --> 00:36:41.790 align:middle line:84% and how sometimes the things that we learn when we are 00:36:41.790 --> 00:36:45.480 align:middle line:84% present and first-hand experiences 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:49.560 align:middle line:84% are the things that stay with us very deeply. 00:36:49.560 --> 00:36:54.290 align:middle line:90% 00:36:54.290 --> 00:36:59.390 align:middle line:84% But also, this also represents value systems too 00:36:59.390 --> 00:37:02.630 align:middle line:84% because sometimes certain ways of learning 00:37:02.630 --> 00:37:09.320 align:middle line:84% may be valued more or legitimized more, 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:10.546 align:middle line:90% things like that. 00:37:10.546 --> 00:37:14.290 align:middle line:90% 00:37:14.290 --> 00:37:18.250 align:middle line:84% And this image is called Desecration 00:37:18.250 --> 00:37:20.530 align:middle line:90% at the Site of Creation. 00:37:20.530 --> 00:37:25.000 align:middle line:84% And this is another image that they took, 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:28.570 align:middle line:84% I didn't take this image actually, the middle image. 00:37:28.570 --> 00:37:31.270 align:middle line:90% 00:37:31.270 --> 00:37:37.780 align:middle line:84% I consulted with a historian that works 00:37:37.780 --> 00:37:40.300 align:middle line:90% with that space, Puvungna. 00:37:40.300 --> 00:37:44.440 align:middle line:84% And she lent me material and I looked through it. 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:48.820 align:middle line:84% And then I liked this image that she had 00:37:48.820 --> 00:37:52.960 align:middle line:84% and I used that one and I printed it. 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:59.410 align:middle line:84% And this rock has major significance on that site. 00:37:59.410 --> 00:38:03.190 align:middle line:84% And the origin stories was stories 00:38:03.190 --> 00:38:07.225 align:middle line:84% of creation basically come from that area where the rock is 00:38:07.225 --> 00:38:08.530 align:middle line:90% on Cal State Long Beach. 00:38:08.530 --> 00:38:12.040 align:middle line:90% And it's for all the Tongva. 00:38:12.040 --> 00:38:14.780 align:middle line:90% It comes from that space. 00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:19.520 align:middle line:84% And so there's a woman that lives next to that area. 00:38:19.520 --> 00:38:22.930 align:middle line:84% And she comes and oversees and looks 00:38:22.930 --> 00:38:29.050 align:middle line:84% and she noticed that there was some graffiti that I 00:38:29.050 --> 00:38:31.340 align:middle line:84% guess happens every so often to the space, 00:38:31.340 --> 00:38:33.010 align:middle line:90% so she documented it. 00:38:33.010 --> 00:38:35.920 align:middle line:84% And I asked her if I can use that image and she said yes. 00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.890 align:middle line:84% And I printed it and I brought it into the space 00:38:38.890 --> 00:38:41.995 align:middle line:90% and rephotographed it. 00:38:41.995 --> 00:38:44.820 align:middle line:84% I think that's all I have right now. 00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:47.870 align:middle line:90% Oh, yes. 00:38:47.870 --> 00:38:52.310 align:middle line:84% I have a few resources I can share 00:38:52.310 --> 00:38:54.980 align:middle line:84% where I got a lot of information that other people might 00:38:54.980 --> 00:38:56.750 align:middle line:84% be interested in these types of topics. 00:38:56.750 --> 00:38:59.630 align:middle line:84% And the Chicano Studies Research Center 00:38:59.630 --> 00:39:03.770 align:middle line:84% is a good one at UCLA that has a huge archive 00:39:03.770 --> 00:39:11.700 align:middle line:84% and they put up the La Raza Exhibit with Gene Autry Museum. 00:39:11.700 --> 00:39:15.230 align:middle line:90% And then Mapping Indigenous LA. 00:39:15.230 --> 00:39:18.290 align:middle line:84% It's another good resource for Indigenous history 00:39:18.290 --> 00:39:21.800 align:middle line:84% in Los Angeles and it feature stories directly 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.820 align:middle line:90% from Tongvan individuals. 00:39:25.820 --> 00:39:29.420 align:middle line:84% And also the Gloria Arellanes Collection at Cal State LA 00:39:29.420 --> 00:39:30.230 align:middle line:90% Library. 00:39:30.230 --> 00:39:33.710 align:middle line:84% It talks about a lot of the Chicano Movement 00:39:33.710 --> 00:39:35.780 align:middle line:84% as well from her personal collection. 00:39:35.780 --> 00:39:40.580 align:middle line:84% And the Puvungna Wetlands Protectors, 00:39:40.580 --> 00:39:44.510 align:middle line:84% an organization that is organizing 00:39:44.510 --> 00:39:48.440 align:middle line:84% to preserve Puvungna site and the surrounding wetlands. 00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.500 align:middle line:90% 00:39:51.500 --> 00:39:52.820 align:middle line:90% I'm open for questions. 00:39:52.820 --> 00:39:57.290 align:middle line:84% I hope I made some connections and I hope I didn't go over. 00:39:57.290 --> 00:39:58.730 align:middle line:90% Thank you so much, Isabel. 00:39:58.730 --> 00:40:02.030 align:middle line:84% I have to tell you I really connect strongly to the work 00:40:02.030 --> 00:40:05.300 align:middle line:84% that you, I mean, all of it I think is really incredible. 00:40:05.300 --> 00:40:08.115 align:middle line:84% But I really connect to that last series 00:40:08.115 --> 00:40:10.490 align:middle line:84% that you shared with us today that you did at Long Beach. 00:40:10.490 --> 00:40:13.190 align:middle line:84% I love how you're photographing photographs 00:40:13.190 --> 00:40:18.140 align:middle line:84% in space and within architecture. 00:40:18.140 --> 00:40:21.860 align:middle line:84% And I love how you contrast the past and the present 00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:24.200 align:middle line:84% and, like you said, conflicting values 00:40:24.200 --> 00:40:29.540 align:middle line:84% of ownership, land, space, ceremony, 00:40:29.540 --> 00:40:31.460 align:middle line:90% acquisition of knowledge. 00:40:31.460 --> 00:40:34.080 align:middle line:90% So thank you for that. 00:40:34.080 --> 00:40:35.160 align:middle line:90% Really beautiful. 00:40:35.160 --> 00:40:40.885 align:middle line:84% I also really love the series that you did on Junipero Serra, 00:40:40.885 --> 00:40:43.400 align:middle line:90% if I'm saying that correctly. 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.110 align:middle line:84% And I know this is like a huge, huge issue. 00:40:46.110 --> 00:40:48.350 align:middle line:84% So I know we only have limited time. 00:40:48.350 --> 00:40:51.890 align:middle line:84% But it certainly made me think of the canonization 00:40:51.890 --> 00:40:55.070 align:middle line:84% of so many colonizers and people who 00:40:55.070 --> 00:40:58.760 align:middle line:84% have done overtly questionable and racist things 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.510 align:middle line:84% throughout history and within the last year especially. 00:41:02.510 --> 00:41:04.370 align:middle line:84% Although over time, we've seen a lot 00:41:04.370 --> 00:41:11.300 align:middle line:84% of those public sculptures toppled or be removed, 00:41:11.300 --> 00:41:15.600 align:middle line:84% either forcibly or through city council meetings or whatever. 00:41:15.600 --> 00:41:17.840 align:middle line:84% I just wondered if you had any thoughts 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:23.000 align:middle line:84% to share on what we see happening with those monuments. 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:24.920 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:26.480 align:middle line:90% I think it's really interesting. 00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:31.790 align:middle line:84% Well, obviously, they were made monuments for a reason 00:41:31.790 --> 00:41:34.040 align:middle line:90% and they do have a power. 00:41:34.040 --> 00:41:35.990 align:middle line:84% I think every monument has a power. 00:41:35.990 --> 00:41:43.520 align:middle line:84% And I mean, if I was a Black person in the South 00:41:43.520 --> 00:41:48.170 align:middle line:84% and I would see colonial monuments, 00:41:48.170 --> 00:41:52.760 align:middle line:84% it would make me feel quite diminished, 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:54.040 align:middle line:90% I guess you can say. 00:41:54.040 --> 00:41:57.160 align:middle line:84% I mean, thinking about whose histories are celebrated 00:41:57.160 --> 00:41:58.700 align:middle line:90% and things like that. 00:41:58.700 --> 00:42:03.490 align:middle line:84% So being on California and seeing 00:42:03.490 --> 00:42:08.800 align:middle line:84% a lot of statues representing Junipero Serra, 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:17.030 align:middle line:84% and from my perspective, I know that the situation is obviously 00:42:17.030 --> 00:42:17.810 align:middle line:90% very complex. 00:42:17.810 --> 00:42:24.170 align:middle line:84% But overall, I think there's space for other histories 00:42:24.170 --> 00:42:29.900 align:middle line:84% to be shared and told and monumentalized and celebrated 00:42:29.900 --> 00:42:35.270 align:middle line:84% in such than these narrow perspectives of this history. 00:42:35.270 --> 00:42:42.100 align:middle line:84% Because they represent the lines of history 00:42:42.100 --> 00:42:45.070 align:middle line:84% that we've been told, the narratives, 00:42:45.070 --> 00:42:48.010 align:middle line:84% the constructed narrative really of history that we've 00:42:48.010 --> 00:42:52.870 align:middle line:84% been told growing up that we continue to hear, 00:42:52.870 --> 00:42:56.800 align:middle line:84% unless we seek out alternative historical facts, or I mean, 00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:57.670 align:middle line:90% that sounds weird. 00:42:57.670 --> 00:43:00.160 align:middle line:90% It sounds bad. 00:43:00.160 --> 00:43:06.220 align:middle line:84% Unless we seek out other history that really happened. 00:43:06.220 --> 00:43:09.130 align:middle line:84% And a lot of it was well documented. 00:43:09.130 --> 00:43:11.480 align:middle line:84% So it's not like it doesn't exist. 00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:12.920 align:middle line:90% It's just not being taught. 00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:17.650 align:middle line:90% So I know it's complex. 00:43:17.650 --> 00:43:20.950 align:middle line:84% I can't say I'm missing any of those statues of Junipero Serra 00:43:20.950 --> 00:43:22.600 align:middle line:90% that have been toppled down. 00:43:22.600 --> 00:43:26.350 align:middle line:84% I think that I'm completely OK with it. 00:43:26.350 --> 00:43:29.232 align:middle line:84% And we have enough memorializing of him. 00:43:29.232 --> 00:43:30.940 align:middle line:84% I mean, there's so many other things that 00:43:30.940 --> 00:43:32.650 align:middle line:90% are named after him everywhere. 00:43:32.650 --> 00:43:34.210 align:middle line:90% It's embedded everywhere. 00:43:34.210 --> 00:43:40.300 align:middle line:84% I think Stanford's leaving some labels named after him. 00:43:40.300 --> 00:43:44.320 align:middle line:84% But I think even with a few statues missing, 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.560 align:middle line:84% his presence is still very strong in California. 00:43:47.560 --> 00:43:50.140 align:middle line:90% 00:43:50.140 --> 00:43:55.000 align:middle line:84% And this idea of the monument, I think 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.800 align:middle line:84% that we need to look at as well, like, 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.718 align:middle line:84% do we really need those monuments? 00:44:00.718 --> 00:44:05.460 align:middle line:90% 00:44:05.460 --> 00:44:08.550 align:middle line:84% We have a question in the chat from Peter. 00:44:08.550 --> 00:44:11.910 align:middle line:84% Peter asks, "How important is beauty in your work, which 00:44:11.910 --> 00:44:14.470 align:middle line:90% is striking?" 00:44:14.470 --> 00:44:15.360 align:middle line:90% It was striking? 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.250 align:middle line:84% So a comment and a question together. 00:44:17.250 --> 00:44:18.080 align:middle line:90% Oh, OK. 00:44:18.080 --> 00:44:19.050 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:44:19.050 --> 00:44:21.870 align:middle line:90% Thank you so much. 00:44:21.870 --> 00:44:24.690 align:middle line:84% I go in and out of the idea of beauty. 00:44:24.690 --> 00:44:30.595 align:middle line:84% I know beauty, it's important because first, it 00:44:30.595 --> 00:44:31.470 align:middle line:90% brings in the viewer. 00:44:31.470 --> 00:44:35.167 align:middle line:84% It makes the viewer to pay attention to your work 00:44:35.167 --> 00:44:36.250 align:middle line:90% and interest in your work. 00:44:36.250 --> 00:44:39.490 align:middle line:84% So I know that beauty is really important. 00:44:39.490 --> 00:44:44.000 align:middle line:84% I know in some contemporary art, beauty is not as important 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:45.270 align:middle line:90% and I respect that too. 00:44:45.270 --> 00:44:48.310 align:middle line:84% It's more about the ideas that are being represented. 00:44:48.310 --> 00:44:51.210 align:middle line:84% But ultimately, I think that it's a fine balance 00:44:51.210 --> 00:44:53.620 align:middle line:90% between the ideas and beauty. 00:44:53.620 --> 00:45:00.570 align:middle line:84% So ultimately, I would like to have both the idea of what 00:45:00.570 --> 00:45:06.540 align:middle line:84% I'm trying to say and beauty work together to bring 00:45:06.540 --> 00:45:09.470 align:middle line:90% some interest to individuals. 00:45:09.470 --> 00:45:10.970 align:middle line:84% I love that you shared resources. 00:45:10.970 --> 00:45:11.750 align:middle line:90% I appreciate that. 00:45:11.750 --> 00:45:13.280 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.920 align:middle line:84% So in that spirit, are there any artists 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.940 align:middle line:84% whose work is really inspiring you and that you would 00:45:19.940 --> 00:45:22.550 align:middle line:84% recommend that folks who are interested in your work 00:45:22.550 --> 00:45:24.410 align:middle line:90% check out? 00:45:24.410 --> 00:45:26.480 align:middle line:90% Oh, yeah. 00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:27.920 align:middle line:90% I was thinking of that. 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.362 align:middle line:84% You want up-and-coming artists or people that I like? 00:45:31.362 --> 00:45:34.020 align:middle line:90% 00:45:34.020 --> 00:45:37.650 align:middle line:84% I really like the work of Adam Brumberg and Oliver Chapman 00:45:37.650 --> 00:45:44.010 align:middle line:84% and they are South African photographers. 00:45:44.010 --> 00:45:47.160 align:middle line:84% They have been working a lot in photography 00:45:47.160 --> 00:45:52.530 align:middle line:84% that they documented the climate after the apartheid. 00:45:52.530 --> 00:45:54.450 align:middle line:84% And I think now they're in England 00:45:54.450 --> 00:45:56.250 align:middle line:84% and they're really looking at issues 00:45:56.250 --> 00:45:59.950 align:middle line:84% in Israel, the Palestinian-Israeli issues 00:45:59.950 --> 00:46:00.450 align:middle line:90% and stuff. 00:46:00.450 --> 00:46:03.630 align:middle line:84% But I find their perspective to be interesting 00:46:03.630 --> 00:46:10.480 align:middle line:84% and I think that they have beauty and a message as well. 00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.280 align:middle line:90% So I like their work a lot. 00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:17.000 align:middle line:84% Well, they're pretty established obviously. 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:20.880 align:middle line:90% There's others as well. 00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:23.870 align:middle line:84% I wonder if you could talk about how you build trust 00:46:23.870 --> 00:46:25.430 align:middle line:84% in relationships with the communities 00:46:25.430 --> 00:46:28.000 align:middle line:90% that you photograph. 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:34.690 align:middle line:84% Yeah, that's a really big thing for me, trust. 00:46:34.690 --> 00:46:37.940 align:middle line:84% Nothing beats personal relationships. 00:46:37.940 --> 00:46:40.740 align:middle line:84% And I think that's the most important thing. 00:46:40.740 --> 00:46:44.600 align:middle line:84% I think the relationships that we have are very important. 00:46:44.600 --> 00:46:52.510 align:middle line:84% So building relationships, making sure you respect people 00:46:52.510 --> 00:46:56.950 align:middle line:84% and what they want, their desire, things like that. 00:46:56.950 --> 00:47:01.660 align:middle line:84% Working with people and how they want to be represented. 00:47:01.660 --> 00:47:05.230 align:middle line:90% So that's definitely one way. 00:47:05.230 --> 00:47:12.450 align:middle line:84% On that note, I love that you are documenting folks 00:47:12.450 --> 00:47:14.280 align:middle line:90% in the activist community. 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:18.990 align:middle line:84% And I love that you're showing the longevity of their work, 00:47:18.990 --> 00:47:20.370 align:middle line:90% I really love that. 00:47:20.370 --> 00:47:24.240 align:middle line:84% I think especially showing the La Raza pictures and then 00:47:24.240 --> 00:47:27.810 align:middle line:84% these folks today, and the fact that they're still showing up, 00:47:27.810 --> 00:47:30.150 align:middle line:84% they're still fighting, they're still doing this work, 00:47:30.150 --> 00:47:33.340 align:middle line:90% I really think that's amazing. 00:47:33.340 --> 00:47:37.090 align:middle line:84% So taking this another direction, 00:47:37.090 --> 00:47:40.180 align:middle line:84% but we'll have students who will view this in the future 00:47:40.180 --> 00:47:43.180 align:middle line:84% and they'll be interested in how can I be an artist. 00:47:43.180 --> 00:47:44.170 align:middle line:90% It seems impossible. 00:47:44.170 --> 00:47:47.260 align:middle line:84% Like, how do you create a career around making art? 00:47:47.260 --> 00:47:49.900 align:middle line:84% And so, I wonder if you have any advice 00:47:49.900 --> 00:47:51.730 align:middle line:84% that you would share to young artists who 00:47:51.730 --> 00:47:54.070 align:middle line:84% are interested in pursuing art about longevity, 00:47:54.070 --> 00:47:58.060 align:middle line:84% about creating a career that has [INAUDIBLE] 00:47:58.060 --> 00:47:59.810 align:middle line:90% Yeah, it's not easy. 00:47:59.810 --> 00:48:02.950 align:middle line:90% 00:48:02.950 --> 00:48:05.560 align:middle line:84% I think there has to be a certain fire 00:48:05.560 --> 00:48:09.190 align:middle line:84% and level of interest that it's going to sustain you 00:48:09.190 --> 00:48:13.690 align:middle line:84% in spite of anything else or all obstacles 00:48:13.690 --> 00:48:19.870 align:middle line:84% and in spite of financial insecurity or whatever. 00:48:19.870 --> 00:48:25.160 align:middle line:84% There's these some other things that have to propel you for it. 00:48:25.160 --> 00:48:27.670 align:middle line:84% And I think most of that is really 00:48:27.670 --> 00:48:32.140 align:middle line:84% your love for what you're doing, what you believe in, 00:48:32.140 --> 00:48:36.280 align:middle line:84% and if you're working with certain issues, 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.940 align:middle line:84% those issues that you want to bring forth or bring 00:48:39.940 --> 00:48:42.930 align:middle line:90% some attention to. 00:48:42.930 --> 00:48:47.040 align:middle line:84% How have you found inspiration, if you will, 00:48:47.040 --> 00:48:50.430 align:middle line:84% or motivation during the pandemic this past year 00:48:50.430 --> 00:48:53.370 align:middle line:90% to continue with your artworks? 00:48:53.370 --> 00:48:56.070 align:middle line:90% Yeah, that's been kind of tough. 00:48:56.070 --> 00:48:58.650 align:middle line:84% I think that's been tough for everybody, but especially 00:48:58.650 --> 00:49:02.130 align:middle line:84% for photographers because you have to meet with people. 00:49:02.130 --> 00:49:05.340 align:middle line:84% And a lot in the beginning or a good deal of the pandemic, 00:49:05.340 --> 00:49:06.630 align:middle line:90% people didn't want to meet up. 00:49:06.630 --> 00:49:08.640 align:middle line:90% And are you vaccinated? 00:49:08.640 --> 00:49:10.720 align:middle line:84% I didn't get vaccinated until very recently, 00:49:10.720 --> 00:49:14.830 align:middle line:84% which I didn't know if I wanted to do. 00:49:14.830 --> 00:49:17.760 align:middle line:84% And so those issues are always coming up 00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:20.650 align:middle line:90% so I looked more inward. 00:49:20.650 --> 00:49:23.390 align:middle line:90% And I was doing other things. 00:49:23.390 --> 00:49:26.910 align:middle line:84% I think I started learning music with friends a bit 00:49:26.910 --> 00:49:31.790 align:middle line:84% and looking through maybe stuff that I already have, 00:49:31.790 --> 00:49:34.710 align:middle line:90% I'm reconfiguring my life. 00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:38.466 align:middle line:84% But ultimately, I think all these things, 00:49:38.466 --> 00:49:41.640 align:middle line:84% they all add to you as an artist. 00:49:41.640 --> 00:49:45.120 align:middle line:84% All of life and forms you practice forms you 00:49:45.120 --> 00:49:47.150 align:middle line:84% or your perspective, things like that. 00:49:47.150 --> 00:49:53.310 align:middle line:84% So all these experiences, you can use them on some level. 00:49:53.310 --> 00:49:55.410 align:middle line:90% But yes, it was quite tough. 00:49:55.410 --> 00:49:57.200 align:middle line:84% It wasn't my most productive time. 00:49:57.200 --> 00:50:00.100 align:middle line:90% 00:50:00.100 --> 00:50:02.300 align:middle line:84% Well, I want to be conscious of your time, Isabel, 00:50:02.300 --> 00:50:03.190 align:middle line:90% and our attendees. 00:50:03.190 --> 00:50:05.860 align:middle line:84% I want to thank you so much for spending some time with us 00:50:05.860 --> 00:50:08.020 align:middle line:84% and sharing more about your practice. 00:50:08.020 --> 00:50:11.570 align:middle line:84% It was really a joy to hear from you today. 00:50:11.570 --> 00:50:14.210 align:middle line:84% And I want to thank those of you who attended live today. 00:50:14.210 --> 00:50:16.010 align:middle line:90% We appreciate it. 00:50:16.010 --> 00:50:19.150 align:middle line:84% Please visit us online and to learn more 00:50:19.150 --> 00:50:21.220 align:middle line:84% about future programs, Roman will just 00:50:21.220 --> 00:50:23.980 align:middle line:90% put our address in the chat. 00:50:23.980 --> 00:50:27.670 align:middle line:84% He'll also follow up with a very brief request again 00:50:27.670 --> 00:50:28.577 align:middle line:90% to complete a survey. 00:50:28.577 --> 00:50:30.910 align:middle line:84% We'd really appreciate a couple of minutes of your time. 00:50:30.910 --> 00:50:33.860 align:middle line:84% It'll help us in planning for the future. 00:50:33.860 --> 00:50:36.310 align:middle line:84% So thanks again, Isabel, and thank you all. 00:50:36.310 --> 00:50:39.450 align:middle line:84% Please take good care and we'll see you in the fall. 00:50:39.450 --> 00:50:39.950 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:50:39.950 --> 00:50:41.800 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:53.446 align:middle line:90%